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Does Shaykh Rabee verify reports relayed to him? – A doubt refuted by Shaykh Muhammad Bazmool

December 31, 2013 AbdurRahman.org Comments off

Question:

What is your statement concerning the one who says that Shaykh Rabee—may Allah preserve him—does not verify the reports relayed to him?

Shaykh Muhammad Bazmool:

I say this person does not know Shaykh Rabee, he does not know Shaykh Rabee. The person who knows Shaykh Rabee, and is close to him; he knows the extent to which the Shaykh verifies speech and reports.

We will be in his gathering and a person from among us will say a statement such as he will attribute something to this book or to that book, and the Shaykh will not accept it until we extracted it from that book and then he looks at it. He says: ‘This is the library, go bring the book and show me the statement.’ The Shaykh does not accept reports (without verifying) even in the affairs of knowledge and statements, so how about when it comes to individuals! And how about these affairs connected to advice and criticizing the people of innovation and criticizing the people of desires and the likes. The Shaykh verifies these affairs with extensive verification —and I do not commend anyone over Allah.

And I want from this person, and other than him to bring us something the Shaykh said which was not like he said it was. Shaykh Rabee—Shaykh Muqbil may Allah have mercy upon him—said concerning him: ‘If this man informs you that a man is a Hizbee and his Hizbiyyah is not apparent to you at the time, his Hizbiyyah will manifest, even if it is after a period of time.’ This is the statement of Shaykh Muqbil. And Shaykh Al Albani said: ‘I read the books of Shaykh Rabee and I did not find in them anything from mistakes, that we oppose or that we are not upon.’ (Or as the Shaykh said, may Allah have mercy upon him)

If the man were not from the people of verification the statements would baffle him and he would be easily swayed by the affairs to the right and to the left, but the affair is not like they have said.

And then, every affair which Shaykh Rabee has engaged in such as the affair of Abul Hassan, the Shaykh—may Allah preserve him, and make us and him firm upon the truth—did not speak from his desires nor from himself. Rather he only said that which was written by Abul Hassan or that which was heard from the voice of Abul Hassan, or positions which are well-known and attested to; which the people bear witness belong to Abul Hassan. And likewise concerning the speech of Sayyid Qutb, and likewise concerning the speech of Salman Al Owdah, and likewise concerning the speech of Abdur Rahman Abdul Khaaliq and likewise concerning the speech of Safar Al Hawaalee, and likewise concerning the speech of Shaykh Al Magharaawee, and other than them. May Allah guide us and guide them. May Allah give us and them success in following the truth and adhering to it and dying upon it.

Translated by Rasheed ibn Estes Barbee
Posted from: http://mtws.posthaven.com

Here is the audio recording:

Shaykh al-Luhaydaan was asked (6th Safar 1435H):

لماذا كثر الكلام حول الشيخ ربيع ، ولماذا يطعنون فيه حفظكم الله تعالى؟

Why has speech increased regarding Shaykh Rabee and why do they revile him, may Allaah preserve you?

And he answered:

الرجل نِعْم الرجل في عقيدته ، وغيرته على الدين ، ولا شك أن الذين يتكلمون فيه ، لأنه هو يرد على المخالفين للسنة ، المخالف يحقد عليه لأنه رد على المخالفين ، ومن لم يخالف لعله يحسده لأنه تنبه إلى ما لم يتنبهوا له ، الرجل نعم الرجل علما ودينا

The man, what an excellent man in his aqeedah and in his jealousy for the religion. No doubt, those who speak about him, it is because he refutes the opposers of the Sunnah, the opposer harbours malice against him because he refutes the opposers. And (as for the one) who does not oppose (the truth), then perhaps he envies him because he is aware of what they did not become aware of. The man, what an excellent man, in knowledge and deen.

Something similar was stated by Shaykh Ibn al-Uthaymeen (see here) more than a decade ago. Due to his efforts in defending the methodology of the Prophets and the creed of Ahl al-Sunnah, many of the great scholars praised Shaykh Rabee (Shaykh al-Albani, Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen, Shaykh Muqbil) and their statements can be found elsewhere on this site.

http://www.themadkhalis.com/md/articles/tpiqg-shaykh-al-luhaydan-they-harbour-malice-towards-shaykh-rabee.cfm

Shaykh Ibn al-Uthaymeen (rahimahullaah) explains the reality of the matter regarding why people attack Shaykh Rabee':

رأينا هذا غلط وخطأ عظيم، والشيخ ربيع من علماء السنَّة ومن أهل الخير وعقيدته سليمة ومنهجه قويم، لكن لما كان يتكلم على بعض الرموز عند بعض الناس من المتأخرين وصموه بهذه العيوب، أعرفت؟

We consider this to be a great error and mistake. Shaikh Rabee' is from the Ulamaa of the Sunnah, and from the people of goodness. His aqidah is sound and his manhaj is strong and sound. However, when he began to speak about some of the symbolic figureheads of some of the people, from amongst the latecomers they began to tarnish him with these faults. Do you know [this] now?

With the knowledge that Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen, a year or so before his death, wholeheartedly warned from the Qutbi Manhaj as evidenced by his checking and commendation of a particular book, refer to the article "Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-Uthaymeen Distinguished Between The Salafi Manhaj and The Qutbi Manhaj and Wholeheartedly Reccommended Warning From the Qutbi Manhaj After Detailed Study and Consideration" (see here).
Now this phenomenon of a people attacking Shaykh Rabee because he refuted - and rightly so - the misguidance of their figureheads, did not stop with Sayyid Qutb, but continued as Shaykh Rabee' performed the obligation of defending the Salafi aqidah and manhaj and defending the honour of the Companions (radiallaahu anhu) by first advising for many long years, then refuting those others who stubbornly opposed the private advice and clung to their baatil (falsehood) stubbornly. From them Abd al-Rahman Abd al-Khaaliq (see here) al-Maghrawi, al-Ma'ribee, al-Halabi, al-Hajuri and others.
Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan Asked About Whoever Twisted His Speech to Attack Shaykh Rabee: It is From His Own Desire and He Will Bear the Burden of Sin
In a very recent question and answer session that took place through a satellite channel, Shaykh Salih al-Fawzan was asked regarding a piece of advice he gave a year earlier and which people interpreted in a certain way in order to attack and malign Shaykh Rabee. Here is the audio (Download File):

Translation:
Questioner:

Our respected Shaykh, father, may Allaah preserve you, you directed, may Allaah preserve you, a precious word and beneficial advice at the end of the dawrah at the University of Malik Saud in Jeddah... and from what you advised with, after the taqwa of Allaah and persistence in seeking knowledge, was to abandon the quarrelling that is taking place now between the students of knowledge and which has split the ummah and has split the students of knowledge such that (it is said) so and so should be warned against and so and so should not be sat with and so and so should not be accompanied. And that it is obligatory to respect the Scholars and not speak ill of them and not to warn against them. And when separation occurs between the Scholars and students of knowledge, who will remain for the Ummah? So then some people - and regretfully O respected Shaykh, father - began to explain your speech that you intended by speech to warn against some Scholars, those whose refutations against the people of falsehood and callers to (their) desires are abundant, such as Shaykh Rabee' al-Madkhalee...

The Shaykh's answer:

The affair is as you mentioned that quarrelling (comprising hatred) is not permissible between the students of knowledge in that which is between them or between them and the scholars, for the students of knowledge and the scholars are the most worthy ones of spreading love and cordiality (brotherhood) for the sake of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic, and to abandon hatred and cutting off between themselves. However, when it is the case that a person errs, his (error) is made clear to him privately, or a letter is written to him, or he is spoken to through the means of communication, he is spoken to privately between the one who is advising and the one being advised and he is notified of the error which occurred from him. This is when he has an actual error, practically (i.e. an actual error has occurred). As for some students of knowledge and some of the tullaab (students) and some of the beginners, then everything is an error to them, and he does not know whether something is a mere error or an innovation (bid'ah). This matter is not permissible, to hasten in passing judgements and to hasten in speaking about people, or about scholars and students of knowledge. This is a rejected matter, Allaah, the Lofty and Exalted said, "O you who believe, if a faasiq (sinful person) comes to you with news, then verify it, harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done" (49:6). And in my speech that you alluded to I did not specify anyone, so whoever comes and specifies, then he specifies from his own desire, and its (burden of) sin is upon him.

http://www.themadkhalis.com/md/articles/dhzcn-shaykh-saalih-al-fawzaan-on-shaykh-rabee.cfm


Read more : http://www.bakkah.net/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Regarding-the-Claimed-Contradictions-of-Shaykh-Rabee-al-Madkhalee-in-Jarh-and-Tadeel.pdf 

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
حياكم الله جميعا
وبعد:

فهذا مقطع صوتي قصير في مدته لكنه كبير في قيمته
وهي عبارة من شهادة من عظيم لعظيم

وفيه أن الشيخ محمد بن عبد الله السبيل -رحمه الله-
قال في فضيلة الشيخ ربيع بن هادي المدخلي -حفظه الله- :

" بطل شجاع! ونحن جبنا، وقد أسقط عنا الفرض العيني "

ولك أن تزن هذا الكلام بالموازين الثقال
وأن تقارنه بما يرمى به هذا الجبل من العظام

الناقل للكلام: الشيخ هانئ بن بريك من محاضرة أسباب الخذلان.

http://www.ajurry.com/vb/showthread.php?t=40632

الْحَمْدُ لِلهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ وَالصَّلاةُ وَالسَّلامُ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللهِ
أما بعدُ:
فإنّ هذه صوتية منهجية وتفريغها للعلامة الشيخ الوالد ربيع بن هادي المدخلي - حفظه البارئ :
الصوتية

السائل:يا شيخ بعض الأخوة يقول لا يَجُوز هَجْر الْمُبتدع هجرًا تعزيْريًّا إلا إذا كانت هناك مصلحة وإلا فلا يُجوز، والأصْل فِي الْهَجر الوقائي فإنّه يَجُوز لكلّ أحَد لأنه سيَقي نَفسه من الشّبه، فَما رأيكم فِي هذا؟

جواب الشيخ الوالد ربيع بن هادي المدخلي - حفظه الله تعالى -:
آلأطفال هم الذين يُحَدّدون الْمَصالح والْمَفاسد!؟ 
مصلحةُ طالبِ العلم الصغيْر مَصلحته تَكْمن فِي الفِرَار من أهل البدع، فإنّنا جرّبنا كثيرًا وكثيرًا مِمّن كان يلتزم بالْمَنهج السلفي، بِهذا التميْيع ضَاعوا وخرجوا من الْمنهج السلفي وأصبحوا أعداءً وخصومًا لأهله.
فأنا أرى أنّ الشاب المُبتدِئ فِي العِلم عليه أنْ يَنْجو بِدينه، كما كان كبار السلف يغلقون آذانَهم ويفرّون من سَمَاع الكلمة من الْمُبتدع خَشية أنْ يَقذف الشيطان فِي نَفسه فِتنة، فلا يستطيع الْخَلاص منها، ومن هؤلاء النبلاء العلماء الفضلاء، أيوب السّختيانِي وابن سيْرين وأمثالِهم.
وهنا كتاب إن شاء الله يصلكم قد ألف فِي بيان هذه القضايا إن شاء الله يصلكم وتقرؤونه وتستفيدون منه.
أمّا العالِم الذي مَنحه الله طاقة وثباتًا وعرف ذلك من نفسه فعليه أن يَغْزو أهْل البدع بدعوته وبيانه وإقامة الْحُجج عليهم.

أمّا الشاب فلا يُخالطهم ولا يُجالسهم ولا يناظرهم، بل عليه أن ينتقي العلم النافع من منابعه الأصيلة ويتمكّن ويرسخ فِي العلم، فإذا رسخت قدمه فِي العلم ورأى من نفسه الكفاءة بالتأثيْر على أهل البدع وإقامة الْحُجة عليهم وجرّ كثير منهم إلى الْهُدى فليفعل، وإن ألِفَ من نفسه ضعفًا وعجزًا ولو كان عالِمًا فلا يقربنّهم وعليه بتعليم أهل السنّة ومُخَالطتهم وبثّ الْخَير فيهم، وهذه هي الْمَصالِح الصحيحة. ودرأ الْمَفاسد مقدّم على جلب الْمَصالِح وما كل طفل يقدّر الْمَصلحة.
ولكنّ هؤلاء يُمَيّعون وقد أدركوا أنّهم نَجحوا فِي نقل الشباب السلفي من مكانته الشريفة إلَى حضيض البدع.فالْحَذر الْحَذر أيها الشباب من مكايد أهل البدع. نعم.

http://www.alwaraqat.net/showthread.php?27413-%C2%E1%C3%D8%DD%C7%E1-%E5%E3-%C7%E1%D0%ED%E4-%ED%F5%CD%F3%CF%F8%CF%E6%E4-%C7%E1%FA%E3%F3%D5%C7%E1%CD-%E6%C7%E1%FA%E3%F3%DD%C7%D3%CF!%BF-%C7%E1%D4%ED%CE-%C7%E1%E6%C7%E1%CF-%D1%C8%ED%DA-%C8%E4-%E5%C7%CF%ED 

 (...السائل: السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

        الشيخ: وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته

        السائل: سماحة الوالد عبد العزيز الراجحي؟

        الشيخ: نعم

        السائل: أحسن الله إليكم شيخنا وبارك فيكم، فضيلة الشيخ سمعنا بصوت الشيـخ اللحيدان كلامًا دافع فيه عن الشيخ ربيع المدخلي وقال: إنه من علماء السنة، ثم نقل لنا البعض عنكم أنكم تبدعون الشيخ ربيع وتخرجونه من دائرة السنة...

        الشيخ –مقاطعا-: من الذي قال هذا؟!!.

        السائل: نعم؟.

        الشيخ: من الذي قال هذا؟!!، من الذي قال هذا؟!!

        السائل: منشور على الانترنت من قبل..

        الشيخ: من الذي نقل عني هذا؟

السائل: يا شيخنا بارك الله فيكم- منشور على الانترنت، بعض الحدَّادية يروجون هذا الكلام..

        الشيخ: أكُل ما ينشر صحيح؟

        السائل: نعم؟

        الشيخ: وهل كل ما ينشر صحيح؟

        السائل: لا يا شيخنا –جزاكم الله خيرا-

        الشيخ: هل كل ما ينشر صحيح؟

        السائل: لا يا شيخنا- الله يكرمك-

        الشيخ: ...كذبوا على الرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام

        السائل: يعني الشيخ ربيع من علماء أهل السنة؟، من علماء السنَّة؟.

        الشيخ: الشيخ عبد العزيز بن باز –رحمه الله جاءه ناس وافتروا عليه، قالوا له: يا شيخ: قلت كذا وكذا وكذا..، قال كذبوا عليّ!! كذبوا على الرسول!!.

        السائل: نعم يا شيخ

        الشيخ: هذه ناس ما تستحي، يا أخي هذا كذب يا أخي.

        السائل: يعني أنقل عنك يا شيخنا أن الشيخ ربيع من علماء أهل السنة؟

        الشيخ: انقل عني، انقل عنِّي أنَّ كل ما نسب لي ليس بصحيح.

        السائل نعم يا شيخ....)

http://www.sahab.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=147395
http://www.salaficentre.com/2012/07/major-scholars-past-and-present-on-shaykh-rabee/